Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by DougE » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:59 pm

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Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:20 pm
So when the new wedges come out I'm thinking about getting a 48 to go along with my 54 and 58 - that should provide the overlap I want. Also, I'm waiting on the SM8 wedges so that I can buy SM7's at some sort of discount - that and the timing would be right for wedge replacement.

Based upon the article I linked and something else I read lately, I also bought a sleeve of Pro V1X yesterday to try out. I doubt if I want to give up a few yards distance and perhaps increase fairway spin for more stopping power, but it's worth a look.
If I stayed with my AP2s or decided to go with T100s instead of T200s, I would have switched my SM7 set up from 50/54/58 to exactly as you are considering (48/54/58). I like my 50 a lot, but the theoretical 5 extra yards I would get with a 48 would be a better fit.

I'm gonna pick up a dozen 2019 Pro V1x myself. Should have done so before I just dropped a bundle on new irons. Now, $47.99 seems like a lot more extra expense than it did last week.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by DougE » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:02 pm

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Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:30 pm
Mrs. Bogey would kill me if I had Doug's equipment budget.
For the record, my budget is not that big for new clubs. I only buy new irons every couple years, and up until this T200 order, was playing 4-year-old AP2s and 2-year-old AP3s. Plus, my pro is giving me a good price on the down-low (far better than retail) which is hard to come by on Titleist clubs. Actually, on anything Titleist. I admit, I buy a lot of clubs over the course of a year, but very few are at full retail. And some, are pre-owned. I also SELL a lot of golf equipment to offset the cost of newer Titleist stuff. I am having to be more frugal lately, as my wife was out of work for 4 months. She does NOT know about the T200s. Ssshhhh. Thankfully, she got a new job and started last week. I waited a week and then ordered the T200s. :o

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by GBOGEY » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:38 am

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Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:20 pm
Based upon the article I linked and something else I read lately, I also bought a sleeve of Pro V1X yesterday to try out. I doubt if I want to give up a few yards distance and perhaps increase fairway spin for more stopping power, but it's worth a look.
So I went for my after work nine last night and I decided to periodically hit a second ball to see if I can tell much difference from my Bridgestone RX (equivalent to Pro V1) and the Pro V1X (there were no individual sleeves of Bridgestone RXS when I was buying). My perception, real or unreal, no surprise is that the RX goes a few yards further and the Pro V1x stops quicker. But I did find that a good driver swing with either ball ended up long and in the fairway and a bad driver swing with either ball ended up in the right rough - WOW! Maybe the only surprise was that I didn't notice extra curve off the tee with the Pro V1X.

I'll probably try this a few more times until I lose the Pro V1X's but for now I'm sticking with my Bridgestones because either:
  • It's the right ball for me
  • I'm not perceptive enough to tell a difference
  • I've been playing it for so long that I'm just more used to it
I did have two wedge shots into the hole where clearly the Bridgestone stopped fast and the Pro V1X stopped really really fast. But to point #3, the Bridgestone was closer to the hole with both shots.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by DougE » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:31 am

Titleist is number one, by a wide margin, for a reason. And it's certainly not because they pay Tour players to play it. Unlike TM. Yes, there are staff Tour pros at Titleist too, but none are getting big bucks to play Titleist balls. TM pays a bundle to Rory, Ricky, and Dustin to play them. Titleist earned their reputation as the #1 ball over the last 80 years.

Other than Titleist, as far as I'm concerned, after trying all sorts of other brands (which I have found around the course), Bridgestone and Srixon Tour options are the real deal as far as spin around the greens. Both are quite good IMO. I like the RX/RSX and the Z-Star with Spin Skin when I am just out on the course trying/hitting golf shots rather than playing a match or postable round. And for the record, Callaway Chrome Soft has been exposed to be quite inconsistent in their manufacturing, by MGS. And, evidently, Callaway is trying to address the issues going forward. They have egg on their face and they know it doesn't look good.

Also, as far as the TM TP5 goes, I hate the hard line where the two halves are pieced together. It looks amateurish for a Tour ball and from an aerodynamic perspective, in my mind, it seems as if it would affect flight. I can't say it actually does, but it just seems like it might to me. That alone, is enough to bug me, so I won't play them. I do, however, trade the good TP5s/5x I find around the course, for mint Titleist AVX or ProVs, with my buddies who like them. So, I suppose they do have some value to me from that perspective.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by GBOGEY » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:44 am

My intent was not to degrade Titleist in favor of Bridgestone. I actually wanted to compare the RX/RXS but couldn't get any RXS without buying a box of 12. But for some reason I've always preferred and seemed to get better results with Bridgestone (they were also the first yellow ball in a tour ball). But again, I think a lot of last night was what I'm used to and quite frankly I don't have the patience it might take to make a switch.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by GBOGEY » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:05 pm

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Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:22 am
When do they release new wedges / when will the SM7 have a slight discount to clear them out - time for new wedges.
Got an email today that the SM7 have gone to clearance prices, ordering my Christmas present tonight.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by DougE » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:15 am

So, the new Vokey SM8s are out on Tour this week. As far as their looks, they are quite different than most previous iterations of SM wedges, graphically speaking. In my opinion, they are cleaner-looking. Not sure yet if I like that. I'm a creature of habit. It will probably take me a while to get comfortable with the more modern look. A week or two, maybe.

The blade shapes still look the same, though the meatiness on the backs where the CG is located on the various SM7 models, seems to be slimmer on the new ones. I know the design still has variable CG locations relative to loft, just as the SM7s did, but I'm just not sure yet how they are achieving it with such a clean back. I need to see more pictures of the whole line, from 46*-62*, for a better understanding. As of right now, the new wedges have been announced with a few photos from Titleist, WRX, MGS etc., but the design specifics are still under wraps. It will all become clear in time.

One thing I do kinda like is the wide open "canvas" on the back. Plenty of room for stamping some fun messages. I have stampings already planned for my new 54 and 58 which are generic enough that I could sell the wedges later on easier than I can with any of my previous wedges, which I always stamped with my name or initials.

I think I'll stamp either BEACH BLANKET BINGO or BEACH BLANKET BABY on my 58*, and I was thinking FISH PITCH & CHIPS for my 54*. Wha'da'ya' think? Too corny?

My guess is the new wedges will be in stores in February or March. Unfortunately, I need a 54* and a 58* now. My SM7s are worn completely out.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by jasonfish11 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:30 pm

58 should be "BUSTIN' OUT"
54 should be "THE SHOW"

Feel free to substitute any other Doug E Fresh song title that might work. The next most appropriate might be "BOUNCE"
Keep it short stupid.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by GBOGEY » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:36 pm

GBOGEY wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Got an email today that the SM7 have gone to clearance prices, ordering my Christmas present tonight.
I put the new 48 degree in play today (the other two wedges will be held back until March when golf is more serious) in order to get used to it. Pleased to say I used it 5 times: 4 approaches and a long sand shot - hit the green all five times, two good looks at bird. I would say that is a day one success.

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Post by DougE » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:39 pm

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by GBOGEY » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:57 pm

GBOGEY wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:36 pm
GBOGEY wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Got an email today that the SM7 have gone to clearance prices, ordering my Christmas present tonight.
I put the new 48 degree in play today (the other two wedges will be held back until March when golf is more serious) in order to get used to it. Pleased to say I used it 5 times: 4 approaches and a long sand shot - hit the green all five times, two good looks at bird. I would say that is a day one success.
Similar today - four approaches and a long bunker shot. 3 of the 4 hit the greens with one good look at bird. The miss was a bladed wedge - blame the club swinger, not the club. Really pleased with the results on long sand shot - one reason I wanted to go to a non set wedge.

Only issue so far: on the third 9 I had 98 yards to the pin. That's close to the max for my 54, but I hit my 54 to 3 feet. Dropped a few balls to hit the 48 and struggled to dial it down to 100 yards, which I need to be able to do.

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Re: Pre-Release (g)rumblings of new Titleist irons

Post by DougE » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:18 pm

GBOGEY wrote:
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Only issue so far: on the third 9 I had 98 yards to the pin. That's close to the max for my 54, but I hit my 54 to 3 feet. Dropped a few balls to hit the 48 and struggled to dial it down to 100 yards, which I need to be able to do.
I'm in the same boat. I am playing a new 48 which is part of my T200 set. I had to drop my SM7 50 so I go from the T200 48 to my SM7 54.10S. My max with the 54 is normally about 95 yards, but I really have to go after it to get it that far. I'm comfortable with it in the 85-95 yard range. But my new T200 48 is regularly 100-115 yds. I have tried to use it for 95-100 yds a number of times and I'm usually long. I can hit it 95 or even 90, but it takes some finesse. So I pick the club for that 95 yard shot based on whether the pin is in the back or front. If front, I may go long with the 48, but I'm still putting. If the pin is back, I take the 54. Rather be short than long in that situation. Sooner or later I'll practice that shot more with the T200 48* and will surely get much more comfortable dialing it back to 95 yards without any concerns. You will too with your 48 SM7.

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