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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:04 pm

I fear this is the end. Glad the Tiger is back home and healing and everything but there is still much uncertainty over the situation. It is a black cloud unfortunately, and part of it hangs over all of professional golf. What caused this crash. Why no skid marks. From news reports, and from their own reporting, law enforcement clearly favored the individual over a hard investigation of what really happened. This was Southern California after all. Tiger is probably the greatest sportsman ever came out of this place. He was a legend in California long before he ever said Hello World or whatever. While I totally get it, and maybe even condone it, law enforcement did not handle this crash in a very rigorous manner. (Other than getting our hero to safety obviously.) The entire situation is fishy, you know it and I know it. Thus the black cloud. But publicly, it can't really be talked about. We can only send well wishes.

Tiger's legacy fortunately will not suffer from the black cloud. That is how sterling his achievements are IMO. And especially in light of how he finished his playing career in memorable fashion. That whole comeback after back fusion, it was sensational. I remember it all. From the Tiger World Challenge in the Bahamas at the very end of 2017, that's when he started playing again, and excited everyone by shooting some low scores again, and also bringing some eye opening clubhead speed to the party. The 2018 Tour season was packed with thrills as he contended regularly. Those close calls at the Open and the PGA were the height of golf-on-TV entertainment, as compelling if not more than any of Tiger Woods other glorious career highlights. And of course he closed that season with a storybook ending, the perfect validation of a full season of rebuild and steady progress. And 2019, would become much more than just the Masters win. There was tying the Sam Snead record in Japan. The simultaneous captaining and being the best player in the Presidents Cup was an achievement that will be much appreciated in years to come.

What Tiger did in 2018-2019 didn't just cement his legacy, it polished it. He did all this in the full view of the internet and social media and memes, against all the young golf stars of the day. There are many now who will remember Tiger best from the late-career stuff. In a way this last chapter might end up actually overshadowing some of the historical shine on the mighty Tiger of circa 2000.

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:54 am

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by DougE » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:27 am

legitimatebeef wrote:
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Told you. :nope
Just hold your horses there, Mr. Cynical. I still thinkhope it was something innocent. Fell asleep, distracted texting, etc. Something that wont harm his image any further.

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:18 pm

Told you as in I told you that law enforcement was giving Tiger special treatment. Anyways even if the cause was "something innocent" it is still deeply concerning whatever it was.

Now that I think about it, Tiger is perhaps lucky that this occurred in the aftermath of his late career heroics. That is to say, there was a time, circa 2016, when Tiger really appeared, at times, like a washed up piece of shit. What if he did this crash back then? Somehow I feel that law enforcement would not have been as discreet and the gory details would have been splashed all across the National Enquirer and TMZ. Oh that's right, Tiger did have an embarrassing car mishap around that time, the unfortunate details of which we heard all about. :nope
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Post by legitimatebeef » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:41 pm

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm

Couldn't even bring myself to post about the most recent revelation, that Tiger woke up from the crash thinking he's in Florida. I don't have any coherent ideas about what really happened but the black cloud grows bigger, and blacker. The questions raised by this incident are probably too disturbing and awkward for the public to face. As in why does this guy have such a casual disregard for his safety (not to mention that of other random people on the road). Eventually though, as with other scandals, this will fade into the background, since nobody else was hurt or maimed.

I am as guilty as anyone of laughing along with this notion that you have to be a psychopath to achieve at that level. Well if that is true, then people like Tiger actually need to be monitored closely for criminal behavior. We as a society have to accept the flip side of the coin and not turn a blind eye to these potential monsters. Look at what OJ was capable of.
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by Duke of Hazards » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:58 pm

I admit I haven't delved into every detail of his crash, but from what I know, he kind of peeled out of the hotel parking lot in a rush, and was on his way to a photo shoot/marketing thing? My guess is that he was running late, and he's likely not the type of person to show up late to things. I'm hard pressed to believe that he'd popped any pills or painkillers that early, but maybe? I've read that he struggles with backpain sleeping on strange beds and he was going to a playing lesson of some kind with other sports celebrities, so maybe he did take something to loosen up.

The eggshell reluctance for authorities to release information is understandable given the fallout after the Kobe heli crash.
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Post by legitimatebeef » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:12 pm

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Post by legitimatebeef » Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:21 pm

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Post by DougE » Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:32 am

Yes, it was good to see this Friday morning. Happy to see only his right leg messed up. Initial reports said major injuries to BOTH legs. His left one looks fine in the pic. Not even a bandage.

Considering, the golf swing puts more torque on the left leg of a right-handed golfer (albeit a fair amount of loading on the right), if he has the desire, he will likely be able to play golf again. That's assuming there isn't some sort of internal damage issue we don't know about that right leg yet, which would prevent him.

I say the man makes another comeback! In fact, I'll go out on a limb and predict he will win again. Bold, I know, but he is not a quitter and I believe he wants to show the world, he is the GOAT, with no question.

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Post by legitimatebeef » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:46 pm

I'm leaning more towards never again, but I would not be surprised if he does figure out a way to some more wins. Winning the Masters at age 43 changed the whole narrative I think. Long as he can stay upright for four straight days, he will have a chance to win golf tournaments, it seems. Remember when people were saying he was done as far back as 2014? I might've believed it myself back then. But now I realize that Tiger has golf magic in those hands.
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Sun May 09, 2021 10:46 pm

I tuned in for a little bit of Rory winning Quail Hollow. Boy did things really change in the moment Tiger crashed his car. Now that he is laid up and widely believed to be finished, the burden of everyone's hopes and dreams is now placed on Rory, let's face it. Rory never seemed to me comfortable squaring up with his idol. He does however seem comfortable being Tiger's successor. He was always the heir apparent. People respect Dustin, and Koepka, and the rest. But they don't love them. Rory, they have learned to love. Rory now is the chosen one. It was ordained years ago.

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Post by legitimatebeef » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:56 pm

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Post by bkuehn1952 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:47 am

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:54 pm

Whatever ends up happening next April, the buildup and the speculation are going to be delirious.
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by legitimatebeef » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:10 pm

Now Tiger's out there hitting balls in public, talking to the press about Ben Hogan and playing as a part-time player. Clearly feeling confident and finding his way back to the competitive realm. That's great and all but serious questions remain re: his accident and why it happened. :nope
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Post by bkuehn1952 » Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:44 am

I wonder if there is a bit of "FDR" imaging going on. When FDR was President, everyone around FDR, including the press, created the illusion that he was not wheelchair bound.

Obviously, the press is not going to assist Tiger in creating an illusion. Getting a little video clip doesn't really show the true picture. I would like to see Tiger walking up to his hitting station.

I am rooting for Tiger to make an amazing comeback. Just don't blow smoke at me; I can handle the truth.
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Post by legitimatebeef » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:44 pm

Tiger Woods has historically been quite realistic about the state of his game whether in good times or bad. So when he started talking to the media about playing again, comparing himself to Ben Hogan, even hitting balls in public at the range at his tournament, I take that as a sign that either he's really going to play on the PGA Tour again, or he is zonked out on pain meds. I suppose both could be true.
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by bkuehn1952 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:44 am

"Although it's been a long and challenging year, I am very excited to close it out by competing in the @PNCchampionship with my son Charlie. I'm playing as a Dad and couldn't be more excited and proud," Woods said in a statement.

December 16th ... mark your calendars.
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by DougE » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:22 am

bkuehn1952 wrote:
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December 16th ... mark your calendars.

I think it's December 18/19, Saturday and Sunday.

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by bkuehn1952 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:47 am

DougE wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:22 am
bkuehn1952 wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:44 am

December 16th ... mark your calendars.

I think it's December 18/19, Saturday and Sunday.
That makes sense. The 16th is probably the start of the schmoozing with the actual playing Saturday & Sunday. :thumbs
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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by sjduffers » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:52 pm

Anybody watched the PNC tournament? I thought Tiger was in pretty good form, even though he is not in "golf shape", ie able to walk 5 rounds in a row, for a Pro-Am followed by 4 tournament rounds. Also, that Charlie kid has a better game than me, and he is... 12? Shaking my head! :nope :facepalm
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Post by DougE » Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:15 pm

Of course I watched. Most of it, anyway. Fun event all around and great to see Tiger swinging a club. There's still hope for more wins after what I saw. He looked quite good, considering the circumstances.

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Re: The Tiger Thread

Post by bkuehn1952 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:33 pm

Same here, I watched a fair amount. Tiger was noticeably limping although he seemed to try to hide it. Still, I am encouraged that he can still swing a golf club better than most. If he can get his legs working, the Masters could be a go.
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