2019 PGA Tour thread

[legitimatebeef]

I'm trying to figure out my price here, what it would take for me to attend this local PGA Tour event. It's easily a three digit figure. Fuck this shit. The PGA Tour product, minus Tiger Woods, looks really anemic right about now. There's one reliably great player in Koepka, and nobody really even likes him. That's kind of sad, but on the other hand he is a total dud nothing personality. The rest, you just never know. Players seem checked out. Rory is definitely checked out. Jordan is still mentally there, but can't seem to find a golf game. Slow play controversy continues to drag everyone down. I say it's a weak era.

[jasonfish11]

"To that end, DeChambeau said he had a member of his management team time all of his shots on Sunday.

"On average, my shots into the green and off the tee around 30 seconds,'' he said. That's 10 seconds under, you know. And if you go to the putting green, let's say it takes 50 seconds, that equals out and you're approximately on time.''"

You know what this statement of Bryson says to me. Either...
1) you averaged more than 40 seconds per shot
2) you are full of shit and didn't have people timing you

To have very quantifiable metrics of "I averaged 30 seconds tee to green.". Then go into very vague statement of "And if you go to the putting green, let's say it takes 50 seconds, that equals out and you're approximately on time.''. This tells me something isn't adding up. Seems like I'm being lied to. Do you have a quantifiable metrics or not? If yes why the ambiguity on the 2nd statement. Did you intentionally ask people to only time certain shots because you knew that is where you'd be quicker?

I smell a massive shit somewhere around here.

[jasonfish11]

I'm going to go to a pga tour event dressed as the shredder with a sign that says "I hate turtles" then follow around Bryson, cantlay, and jb Holmes.

[bkuehn1952]

"To that end, DeChambeau said he had a member of his management team time all of his shots on Sunday.

"On average, my shots into the green and off the tee around 30 seconds,'' he said. That's 10 seconds under, you know. And if you go to the putting green, let's say it takes 50 seconds, that equals out and you're approximately on time.''"

I am with you, @jasonfish11. Just think about the putting times. If he averages 50 seconds, that means the 10 seconds to tap in gives him a minute and a half for the first putt. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Just the methodology of timing is an issue. When did his management team start the clock? When he arrives at the ball? When his caddie arrives (Bryson has jogged/run to his ball in the past)? If one is the last one to play in a threesome, 30 seconds is a huge amount of time. One has had a chance to check the yardage, wind, lie while the other two players have played. Add another 30 seconds and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

As you pointed out, his discussion stayed away from real numbers ("around 30 seconds", "let's say it takes 50 seconds") and he seemed to glide over near the green by saying "shots into the green and off the tee". When he missed the green, what were his times?

At least a precedent has now been set. He is not going to be able to take inordinate amounts of time without someone outing him on instagram or twitter. The spotlight is on him.

[jasonfish11]

The other issue I have is he seems happy that he can "average" 40 seconds. Apparently for how smart he is he can't read the rule book because it doesn't say "on average..."

[legitimatebeef]

[Duke of Hazards]

Chez is going balls out for that 15 mil.

[legitimatebeef]

Our guy is going to fall short but for a little while yesterday, he was within sniffing range of fifteen million dollars.

[legitimatebeef]

Chez didn't win the stupid cup, but still got $1.1MM for trying. I bet for a sensible guy like Chez, $1.1MM goes a long fuckin way.

[sjduffers]

Do caddies still get 10% of that? There you go, it’s only 1 mil, before taxes...

Rory, Rory, that was a nice chant to hear this time, after last year.

[Duke of Hazards]

Chez didn't win the stupid cup, but still got $1.1MM for trying. I bet for a sensible guy like Chez, $1.1MM goes a long fuckin way.

We jest, but this little guy is on a steady upward trajectory. After overcoming some early career injuries (knee-2010, wrist - 2013), the dude's been making some progress....

2015 - (174th OWGR ranking, 173rd money)
2016 - (135th OWGR ranking, 95th money)
2017 - (100th OWGR ranking, 57th money)
2018 - (61st OWGR ranking, 37th money)
2019 - (28th OWGR ranking, 18th money)

Might be a little early, but I'm calling a 2020 Chez Slam.

[jasonfish11]

Do caddies still get 10% of that? There you go, it’s only 1 mil, before taxes...

Rory, Rory, that was a nice chant to hear this time, after last year.

-Caddies cut
-Agent's cut
-Other Expenses
-Taxes

= probably around $250k that he took home.

[GBOGEY]

Chez didn't win the stupid cup, but still got $1.1MM for trying. I bet for a sensible guy like Chez, $1.1MM goes a long fuckin way.

Chez and his instructor also got a few pages in this month's GOLF magazine about what they've done to revitalize his game. Going mainstream.

[legitimatebeef]

You see whenever I refer to this place as the #1 Chez Reavie fan site on the internet, that's not me being a jocular jackass. It's simply the hard truth. Find me a more enthusiastic Chez Reavie discussion going on, anywhere, on internet or in the physical world. That's what I thought.

[legitimatebeef]

More news from the Chez Tracker™

Chez got invited to, and is currently playing in the Tiger World Challenge! Nice reward for a very good year I guess. Pfft, as if playing well on the PGA TOUR isn't its own reward.

[srogers13]

Chez still may be a President's Cup pick if DJ is a no go. He replaced DJ in this tourney, and is the only non-Cupper paired with a Cup Player.

[legitimatebeef]

I was just reading about how Tiger's going to be in the first pairing out in the so-called Presidents Cup, and how assistant captain Steve Stricker will "be allowed to give out advice" to other players while Tiger is playing, which instantly reminded me of how moronic I find all of this.

The women have the right idea with their International Crown competition: four women alone in a strange land, all for one, one for all. No captains, entourages or support staff or babysitters whatsoever. No bullshit, just straight up competition. These mens competitions by contrast are the height of frivolity and pomp and circumstance. All those gay ass galas, red carpets, activities, protocols, forced male bonding, coordinated matching outfits, choreographed celebration dances etc. GTFO of my face with that babyish crap IMO. For a masculine guy such as myself, none of that stuff entertains, in fact it repels. If I happen to catch any of this crap on the TV it will be accidental.

[legitimatebeef]

One of my favorite things about this messageboard community is how it is not easily sucked into fake controversy, such as that surrounding the current "2 teams, 1 cup" event. When the Golf-Industrial-Complex says "Jump!", most other golf messageboard communities say, "How high?"

This event is interesting for one reason alone and that reason is watching Tiger Woods swing the club. Are you guys not seeing this? At this moment, he seems like the actual best player in the world.

[DougE]

Watched till the end at 2 am. Disappointing. USA had a chance to sweep the afternoon matches. Pressure got to them late on the back nine. How are you 5 up at the turn and then finish with a tie for the match? Justin and Ricky. C'mon

In theory , we have the better team of players, so we should win today's session handily. But after what I've seen the first three days, my confidence is low. I don't really care all that much about the President's Cup, normally, but the fact that Tiger is the captain on this one--his first time as the leader---makes me not want to see a U.S. loss.

Wonder who they'll put up today against Tiger in the singles matches. Adam Scott? We'll find out soon enough. Go USA.

[DougE]

Just saw the pairing. Tiger/Ancer. Ancer's been playing very well. Uh oh.

[legitimatebeef]

Hoping for a Tiger win but an Int'l victory, for Adam Scott's sake. Poor guy has never been on the winning side of one of these and you can see it in his face, hear it in his voice.

[DougE]

Sorry Beef. USA won. But, barely, if that's any comfort to you.

Adam got his ass kicked by Xander. Poor guy.

[bkuehn1952]

It was an interesting event. I watched most of the back nine singles.

I assume the final two matches on the course were "halved" by hole concessions rather than Kuchar and Fowler losing the final hole. I did not attempt to watch after it was decided. The USA was supposed to beat the pants off a "no name" International team and it was nice to see a tight competition. I did not want to watch everyone whooping it up when they really only beat a marginally talented group (as opposed to their face plants against Europe).

[legitimatebeef]

I was just making conversation. You don't think I actually cared about Adam Scott, or the international team. Did end up watching--but only to admire the magnificent state of Tiger's game. What the fuck is happening. The guy is once again the godhead of golf. Not that long ago even his most retarded diehard fans were lining up to deliver eulogies. Remember that brief window of time, when it seemed like young Jordan was going to be the face beamed into your living room for the next few decades, while Mr. Woods would be lucky if he could ever walk again or some shit. Don't give me that crap, we all bought into it.

Tiger has exceeded the wildest expectations, of this tard at least. Even after the Masters win, I did not expect to ever see Tiger play as well as he has in these last couple months. Provided he is in good shape going into it, 2020 Masters is going to be the most hype Masters, in the whole history of Masterses.

[DougE]

I have to agree, Beef.